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T O P I C R E V I E WGot Gemini??Those of you with natal Venus Square Saturn, do you find it hard for you to give or receive love? I was reading the cafe astrology descriptions and the interpretation intrigued me. What are you're experiences?------------------Gemini SunLibra MoonGemini MercuryCancer VenusVirgo MarsVirgo AscAnd yes, I'm a guy!CosmicKarma360-- deleteGot Gemini?? quote:Originally posted by CosmicKarma360:-- deleteWhat happened to your reply? I wanted to respond...------------------Gemini SunLibra MoonGemini MercuryCancer VenusVirgo MarsVirgo AscAnd yes, I'm a guy!anno_lucisi don't have it but my friend does and is constantly battling himself in whatever relationship he is in. an excerpt from Liz Greene on Saturn-Venus:'Although Saturn is exalted in Libra, his more primitive side is not conducive to happy relations. This is the aspect "par excellence" of emotional rejection, and it is a difficult one to deal with unless it is taken as an opportunity to discover whether any reality lies behind the projections of the relationship. Venus is the eternal lover and eternal youth and this can naturally upset Saturn who may have a tendency to react with jealousy, possessiveness, suspicion and a feeling of unattractiveness or social ineptness.There is some work to be done first by the average individual whose Saturn is afflicted by Venus. He is likely to be especially sensitive to his own emotional constriction in the presence of Venus and usually experiences a sense of inadequacy. He may feel unloved, unappealing, overly serious and is likely to compensate for this by convincing himself that it is really Venus who is superficial, shallow, flirtatious, disloyal, and vain. He may react with a particularly unpalatable combination of envy, resentment, and a need to dampen or stifle the lighthearted, carefree, self indulgent grace of the Venus temperament.'7thGuardian quote:Originally posted by Got Gemini??: What happened to your reply? I wanted to respond...It's called "a psychological trigger" - that confession was painful for her/him from an emotional point of view - and can trigger those type of emotions when rereading it.I have it as well along with others - and there are times when it's kinda painful even talking about it... this impersonal description explains it pretty well.Venus square SaturnThe square formed between Venus and Saturn shows difficulties in relationships. Because of this, you can be left out of the mainstream of social life sometimes. You have a melancholy disposition resulting in a shyness, or a formal and stiff manner of presenting yourself. You find it hard to meet people half way, perhaps because you fear rejection. A defensive attitude must be overcome. You have such a high degree of tension and anxiety that is hard for you to relax. Doux RêveI have the trine and I can relate.But my Saturn basically eff's up my whole chart so.. CosmicKarma360 quote:Originally posted by 7thGuardian: It's called "a psychological trigger" - that confession was painful for her/him from an emotional point of view - and can trigger those type of emotions when rereading it.I have it as well along with others - and there are times when it's kinda painful even talking about it... this impersonal description explains it pretty well.[b]Venus square SaturnThe square formed between Venus and Saturn shows difficulties in relationships. Because of this, you can be left out of the mainstream of social life sometimes. You have a melancholy disposition resulting in a shyness, or a formal and stiff manner of presenting yourself. You find it hard to meet people half way, perhaps because you fear rejection. A defensive attitude must be overcome. You have such a high degree of tension and anxiety that is hard for you to relax. [/B]Hey there!Actually, the "psychological trigger" thing is absolutely correct! I took it down a little bit because it was kind of irking me when I went back and looked it over again. More so though, I thought it was kind of boring.Plus, I'm trying to get past those feelings. I mean, I'm trying hard not to wallow in that side of Saturn. Reading it over made me feel like I was spending too much time on the negative.The description 7thGuardian posted is spot-on! I could totally agree with all of it.hannaramaaI have Venus square Saturn! (Venus in 11H, Saturn in 7H) I have high standards and boundaries, yet they're also used as excuses so I can avoid risking rejection or getting hurt. My dating mentality is a lot more old fashioned than my peers'. I see them being able to carry on superficial long-term relationships that eventually end, and get over it in a couple weeks and find someone else. It's flabbergasting to me, really, because in my mind my ideal relationships would move really slow and start with us being friends (Venus in the 11H... quickest way to my heart is to be a friend, not a lover.) for a year or something and then have it naturally progress into more. I need more time than most people to feel comfortable with someone.
What are you're experiences?
------------------Gemini SunLibra MoonGemini MercuryCancer VenusVirgo MarsVirgo Asc
And yes, I'm a guy!
quote:Originally posted by CosmicKarma360:-- delete
What happened to your reply? I wanted to respond...
an excerpt from Liz Greene on Saturn-Venus:
'Although Saturn is exalted in Libra, his more primitive side is not conducive to happy relations. This is the aspect "par excellence" of emotional rejection, and it is a difficult one to deal with unless it is taken as an opportunity to discover whether any reality lies behind the projections of the relationship.
Venus is the eternal lover and eternal youth and this can naturally upset Saturn who may have a tendency to react with jealousy, possessiveness, suspicion and a feeling of unattractiveness or social ineptness.
There is some work to be done first by the average individual whose Saturn is afflicted by Venus. He is likely to be especially sensitive to his own emotional constriction in the presence of Venus and usually experiences a sense of inadequacy. He may feel unloved, unappealing, overly serious and is likely to compensate for this by convincing himself that it is really Venus who is superficial, shallow, flirtatious, disloyal, and vain. He may react with a particularly unpalatable combination of envy, resentment, and a need to dampen or stifle the lighthearted, carefree, self indulgent grace of the Venus temperament.'
quote:Originally posted by Got Gemini??: What happened to your reply? I wanted to respond...
It's called "a psychological trigger" - that confession was painful for her/him from an emotional point of view - and can trigger those type of emotions when rereading it.
I have it as well along with others - and there are times when it's kinda painful even talking about it... this impersonal description explains it pretty well.
Venus square Saturn
The square formed between Venus and Saturn shows difficulties in relationships. Because of this, you can be left out of the mainstream of social life sometimes. You have a melancholy disposition resulting in a shyness, or a formal and stiff manner of presenting yourself. You find it hard to meet people half way, perhaps because you fear rejection. A defensive attitude must be overcome. You have such a high degree of tension and anxiety that is hard for you to relax.
quote:Originally posted by 7thGuardian: It's called "a psychological trigger" - that confession was painful for her/him from an emotional point of view - and can trigger those type of emotions when rereading it.I have it as well along with others - and there are times when it's kinda painful even talking about it... this impersonal description explains it pretty well.[b]Venus square SaturnThe square formed between Venus and Saturn shows difficulties in relationships. Because of this, you can be left out of the mainstream of social life sometimes. You have a melancholy disposition resulting in a shyness, or a formal and stiff manner of presenting yourself. You find it hard to meet people half way, perhaps because you fear rejection. A defensive attitude must be overcome. You have such a high degree of tension and anxiety that is hard for you to relax. [/B]
[b]Venus square Saturn
The square formed between Venus and Saturn shows difficulties in relationships. Because of this, you can be left out of the mainstream of social life sometimes. You have a melancholy disposition resulting in a shyness, or a formal and stiff manner of presenting yourself. You find it hard to meet people half way, perhaps because you fear rejection. A defensive attitude must be overcome. You have such a high degree of tension and anxiety that is hard for you to relax. [/B]
Hey there!
Actually, the "psychological trigger" thing is absolutely correct! I took it down a little bit because it was kind of irking me when I went back and looked it over again. More so though, I thought it was kind of boring.
Plus, I'm trying to get past those feelings. I mean, I'm trying hard not to wallow in that side of Saturn. Reading it over made me feel like I was spending too much time on the negative.
The description 7thGuardian posted is spot-on! I could totally agree with all of it.
I have high standards and boundaries, yet they're also used as excuses so I can avoid risking rejection or getting hurt. My dating mentality is a lot more old fashioned than my peers'. I see them being able to carry on superficial long-term relationships that eventually end, and get over it in a couple weeks and find someone else. It's flabbergasting to me, really, because in my mind my ideal relationships would move really slow and start with us being friends (Venus in the 11H... quickest way to my heart is to be a friend, not a lover.) for a year or something and then have it naturally progress into more. I need more time than most people to feel comfortable with someone.
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